Groovemaster vs. 575

[RonD]

Hi everyone.

I'm a newbie here and have been scouring the threads here for days. I pretty much had my mind made up on a Groovemaster. The newest edition, single PUP, finger tailpiece...

 

After having read hundreds of posts, it seems that the H575 is a much more popular choice. Once again, I am unsure about which way to go.

Very little info, at least that I can find, about the Groovemaster. Tons on the H575.

 

I very much like the aesthetics of the GM.

 

Help... any opinions or discussion would be greatly appreciated.

 

btw. This is by far, my favorite forum. Everyone here behaves in a friendly, mature manner. It's a pleasure being here.

 

Cheers, Ron

[big bob]

The only way to know is to play them both..

Good luck in your quest.

[High Flying Bird]

btw. This is by far, my favorite forum. Everyone here behaves in a friendly, mature manner. It's a pleasure being here.

 

Ummmm, most of the time.

 

Come up to the factory August 6th and see if they have a GM in stock.

[Guest mgoetting]

575 is more versatile, but you make not need that.

 

I'd suggest an Eagle Classic. Spruce top, plays easy, slightly longer scale, which might help you with jazz.

[Jazzpunk]

Hi Ron,

Welcome to the HOC!

 

From my experience, I would say the Groove Master has a more electrified, slightly brighter jazz/blues tone whereas the 575 has a fatter, 'rounder' classic jazz tone. The GM also has a little more sustain which may or may not be desirable.

 

The GM would be the perfect blues guitar for me if it had a bit more upper fret access. I can play the G major scale in first position above the 12th fret comfortably but no higher than that. I can't remember what the upper fret access is like on the 575.

 

Also, the GM is a very comfortable guitar to play standing up due to the body depth.

 

I think both guitars sound great and can get into similar territory so you really can't go wrong either way!

[RonD]

The only way to know is to play them both..

Good luck in your quest.

 

Thanks big bob,

 

I forgot to mention, I'm a lefty, so I'm going to have to make my decision on spec.

I've seen The H575 in L/H, never the Groovemaster.

[RonD]

Ummmm, most of the time.

 

Come up to the factory August 6th and see if they have a GM in stock.

 

Thanks High Flying Bird,

 

I read a couple of posts that got a little "heated", but compared to other forums, the participants were still fairly well behaved.

It's when people start name calling or stating that so and so is the "best" and everyone else sucks... that, I can't stand.

 

I'm a lefty, so the chances of one being in stock are slim to none!

 

Cheers,

[RonD]

Hi Ron,

Welcome to the HOC!

 

From my experience, I would say the Groove Master has a more electrified, slightly brighter jazz/blues tone whereas the 575 has a fatter, 'rounder' classic jazz tone. The GM also has a little more sustain which may or may not be desirable.

 

The GM would be the perfect blues guitar for me if it had a bit more upper fret access. I can play the G major scale in first position above the 12th fret comfortably but no higher than that. I can't remember what the upper fret access is like on the 575.

 

Also, the GM is a very comfortable guitar to play standing up due to the body depth.

 

I think both guitars sound great and can get into similar territory so you really can't go wrong either way!

 

Thanks Jazzpunk,

That's the stuff I wanna hear!

btw, aren't you on jazzguitar.be as well? I think it might have been you who referred me to HOC.

 

Cheers, Ron

[RonD]

575 is more versatile, but you make not need that.

 

I'd suggest an Eagle Classic. Spruce top, plays easy, slightly longer scale, which might help you with jazz.

 

Thanks mgoetting,

 

I'm thinking 24 3/4 scale, so the Eagle isn't on my list. The Sweet 16, however... just way out of my price range at this time.

 

Cheers, Ron

[ronalr]

Welcome to to HOC from one Ron to another ...I have never played a GM but I like the looks and style...I have a H-575 that I use for jazz chord melody with flat wounds on it and it sounds great ....

[Kuz]

The biggest difference is the metal tune-amatic bridge of the GM is INTO the top (thus more metallic sounding) and the 575 has a wooded platform bridge with a compensated saddle (non-tunamatic) so it definitely will sound more sound more woody & darker.

[RonD]

The biggest difference is the metal tune-amatic bridge of the GM is INTO the top (thus more metallic sounding) and the 575 has a wooded platform bridge with a compensated saddle (non-tunamatic) so it definitely will sound more sound more woody & darker.

[RonD]

Boy, you guys are making it difficult!

[Jazzpunk]

Boy, you guys are making it difficult!

 

What style of music are you going to be playing?

[RonD]

What style of music are you going to be playing?

 

Jazz, pretty mainstream. Chord melody, jazz blues, standards.

I'm a big fan of Ed Bickert, Kenny Burrell, Howard Alden.

You get the picture.

 

Cheers,

[Jazzpunk]

Here is Ingeneri's original review of the Groovemaster that I now own:

 

Groove Master review

 

He said he sold it as it had too much sustain for his liking. He may have had other reasons as well and kept the to himself in order to be polite lol.

 

I would suggest PM'ing him and seeing what he suggests. FWIW he opted for a 575 with P-90's after selling the GM. I'm sure he'd be happy to fill you in as to why.

[Guest mgoetting]

I didn't realize the scale on the GM was shorter than standard. I've never played it.

 

Most of my guitars are 24.75 inch. My Eagle Classic and Fender are longer, and I enjoy switching to them for that reason (among others).

 

I'm wondering if my fingers are too fat for the GM.

 

There's an extraordinary 576 on eBay that belongs to a university jazz guitar student. He needs the money to get a 555. I've corresponded with him and he seems like a decent guy to work with.

 

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewI...e=STRK:MEWAX:IT

[Steiner]

Welcome Ron to the HOC!

 

I cannot believe that after 17 posts nobody here has the definitive answer. Get one of each!

 

Most complex difficulties have simple answers; Aren't you glad you stopped in?

[RonD]

Welcome Ron to the HOC!

 

I cannot believe that after 17 posts nobody here has the definitive answer. Get one of each!

 

Most complex difficulties have simple answers; Aren't you glad you stopped in?

Thanks Steiner,

Believe me, if I could afford it... I'm thinkin' GM's and Eagles, and 16's... Oh my!

 

I'm amazed that through research alone, I am becoming a Heritage fanatic! I'm driving my buddies nuts talking about them!

 

The forum is awesome, and the people are really helpful. I sent an email to Heritage with a question and got an answer, from Ren, in hours!

AMAZING!

 

Cheers, Ron

[RonD]

Here is Ingeneri's original review of the Groovemaster that I now own:

 

Groove Master review

 

He said he sold it as it had too much sustain for his liking. He may have had other reasons as well and kept the to himself in order to be polite lol.

 

I would suggest PM'ing him and seeing what he suggests. FWIW he opted for a 575 with P-90's after selling the GM. I'm sure he'd be happy to fill you in as to why.

Hey Jazzpunk, thanks for the link

Please tell me that the scale length cited, 23 3/4, is a typo!

Cheers, Ron

[Jazzpunk]

Hey Jazzpunk, thanks for the link

Please tell me that the scale length cited, 23 3/4, is a typo!

Cheers, Ron

 

Yeah, it's a typo.