slider313 Posted March 5, 2008 Posted March 5, 2008 WOW. I just received my gold TonePros locking stop tailpiece for my H555. I played the guitar for some time with the stock Schaller tailpiece before installing the TonePros to get a good feel for tonal changes. Well, I can say the guitar not only plays better but it has more of a ring to it and sounds more acoustical. It even makes the Schaller pickups sound brighter and more defined. It already had a Nashville tune-o-matic on it when I bought it. Well worth the money. Next.....a set of Lollar Imperial Low Winds.................
SouthpawGuy Posted March 5, 2008 Posted March 5, 2008 I'm interested ..... how exactly does it lock ?
slider313 Posted March 5, 2008 Author Posted March 5, 2008 It comes with two posts also. I unscrewed the posts for the Schaller tail and these just screw right in. Then you just put the stop tail on the posts and there are two set srews, one on each side, you just tighten the set screw until it's tight and locked to the posts.http://photobucket.com/albums/b376/slider313/tonepros.jpg[/img]
AnH555 Posted March 5, 2008 Posted March 5, 2008 Take a look at this, Slider. I invested about eleven bucks in a drill bit, tap, set screws, and allen wrench. Presto - locking bridge. The set screws are stainless to avoid corrosion. I did this to hold my bridge in place when restringing, so I can dial in the height precisely and keep it that way. I've got a TP-6 fine tuner tailpiece on the way. The Tonepros looks good, you might consider this option on your bridge. Cheers! b.jpg b.jpg_thumb
jamison162 Posted March 5, 2008 Posted March 5, 2008 Nice job AnH! I don't think I have EVER seen a tailepiece that high though, wow. I dig the TonePros stuff. But I like the standard Gotoh lighweight aluminum tailpiece with the TonePros steel locking stude best. I also have a TonePros Nashville bridge but may try their ABR and use conversion posts. To the original poster....how good a fit are your Tailepiece studs with those existing bushings? On past guitars, I always notice some slop/lot of play and would actually use teflon tape to make a tight fit. Probably not a good idea thinking back, because the teflon probably hindered the natural transfer/vibration...who knows, it's a trade off.
cosmikdebriis Posted March 5, 2008 Posted March 5, 2008 How about a string thru or, in the case of a semi. A wooden, acoustic style tailpiece attached directly to the guitar body. Surely that would improve "transfer/vibration" Just a thought ???
slider313 Posted March 5, 2008 Author Posted March 5, 2008 Nice job AnH! I don't think I have EVER seen a tailepiece that high though, wow. I dig the TonePros stuff. But I like the standard Gotoh lighweight aluminum tailpiece with the TonePros steel locking stude best. I also have a TonePros Nashville bridge but may try their ABR and use conversion posts. To the original poster....how good a fit are your Tailepiece studs with those existing bushings? On past guitars, I always notice some slop/lot of play and would actually use teflon tape to make a tight fit. Probably not a good idea thinking back, because the teflon probably hindered the natural transfer/vibration...who knows, it's a trade off. The new studs are nice and tight in the original bushings, just the way I like it ;D. The thread is exactly the same.
SouthpawGuy Posted March 5, 2008 Posted March 5, 2008 It comes with two posts also. I unscrewed the posts for the Schaller tail and these just screw right in. Then you just put the stop tail on the posts and there are two set srews, one on each side, you just tighten the set screw until it's tight and locked to the posts.http://photobucket.com/albums/b376/slider313/tonepros.jpg[/img] Interesting indeed, I somehow thought it was like a locking bridge or Floyd, duhhhh ! I notice from the pics that neither slider or AnH555 wrap the strings around the tailpiece, would this not increase the sustain even further ? http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o259/LosiePix/LesPaulMoney.jpg[/img] I haven't tried it myself, have any of you guys ?
jamison162 Posted March 5, 2008 Posted March 5, 2008 Topwrapping is 100% personal preference. There are pro's and con's. String tension is slighty reduced making them feel a little slinky. The tonal changes and whether or not you feel it increases sustain is up to you and your guitar. More string contact on the tailepiece COULD transfer more string vibration to the body, it also allows you to drop the tailpiece to the deck while allowing a lesser break angle and 100% clearance of the back of a Nashville bridge. At the same time, the increased string/metal contact COULD slow the string vibration down faster causing a loss in sustain. Try it both ways and decide for yourself.
AnH555 Posted March 5, 2008 Posted March 5, 2008 It would allow the tailpiece to be screwd down snug.... (BTW I don't usually set my tailpiece as high as it is - it's misadjusted)
SouthpawGuy Posted March 5, 2008 Posted March 5, 2008 Topwrapping is 100% personal preference. There are pro's and con's. String tension is slighty reduced making them feel a little slinky. The tonal changes and whether or not you feel it increases sustain is up to you and your guitar. More string contact on the tailepiece COULD transfer more string vibration to the body, it also allows you to drop the tailpiece to the deck while allowing a lesser break angle and 100% clearance of the back of a Nashville bridge. At the same time, the increased string/metal contact COULD slow the string vibration down faster causing a loss in sustain. Try it both ways and decide for yourself. Hi jamison, thanks for the info, I'm a long time Strat player myself. I do have a LP that I bought new about 18 years ago now, I never really took to the weight etc.(it weighs 10lbs). I have recently acquired a few Heritage guitars, but all are semis, and I play them a lot, as yet I haven't tried the "topwrapping" style of stringing, I might just give it a try sometime soon. Thanks.
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